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Complete in Christ by Blugi Complete in Christ by Blugi
"For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily, and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power."
-Colossians 2:9-10
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ll-Bisto-ll Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
AMEN! Nicely done ;)

Thank you for uploading this, and keep up the good work!!

God bless in Christ Jesus =)
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Storm-Cwalker Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is awesome.
For those criticizing this for being on the front page you need to rethink your thought process and make sure you're not slamming this simply because you don't agree with what it says. As if there was a certain standard for what makes the frontpage, the only thing that decides that is how many people look at/fave/comment on this deviation, just ignore it. It doesn't obstruct your freedom or strip you of some sort of right. When you criticize this being on the front page it is in fact YOU who is claiming that people should not view/fave/comment on this deviation, it is in fact you who is attempting to obstruct the freedom of others.

Think before you criticize, if not, please be consistent and comment the same on every single thing you deem unworthy to be viewed by your divine eyes. 
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4a-m Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2014   Traditional Artist
Yeah, I agree with you. Lots of Christians in power freak out when atheist's opinions are public, and claim it's persecution. But when atheists have more control, they freak out about anything Christian, and claim that's persecution. It's not that Christians or Atheists are more intolerant than one another- whoever has the power is going to abuse it. 
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menslady125 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Amen.
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JaqErant92 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Amen. I was so lost without Him.
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Blugi Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You, I, everyone... :)
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eJcalado Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

Keep on the good work! It's not in vain in the Lord!
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Blugi Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Amen!! :D
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Andracus Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
So true, love this. And, just in someone who came here to be mean reads this comment: The bible does go hand in hand with science. Know something about the hebrew original before you judge.
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Blugi Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes!! :)
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Thebalrog6 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Student Digital Artist
You are entitled to your own belief, and I to mine.
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DRexySeamfire Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I feel sad for people who accept any religion in this age because they don't want to know about mathematics, physics, chemistry, astronomy, evolution even when they have internet access to learn about the world around them, scientists have done the hard work, the least you can do is look at some results and truths about our observations of reality not spiritual talk. But I guess its not their fault they believe in this modern idea of there being a God. Its nice to follow the stories of people from hundreds of years ago, its their way to sort of reach immortality by making a mark on paper. But being keyboard warriors and attacking each other is not going to change no ones opinion because they will get all defensive.

Just be open minded and see things for what they really are, religions are old and deserve some respect but not so much as to fool you into believing in words on paper without any proof. Gotta educate yourself, its so easy with the internet - both the people who despise religion and feel the need to comment in a negative way just need to move on and the people who lets be honest still believe in stories need to catch up on some scientific discoveries that have enlightened our knowledge of the universe and gave us the tools to do great things and also destroy ourselves so please less fighting and more love, no matter what we are on this planet together and unless we get along by accepting the help of technology and science there will be inequality, poverty and extinction of our species.
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Blugi Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for comment, and honest and polite opinion .
That's right, it's sad when people believe in religion without basis, but not all Christians (or any other religion) are people with out education, there are many scientists who are (or where religious) I assume that you are a well instructed person, and many of actual science pioneers where devoted Christians. Nowadays there are still nobel prizes winners who are Christian, and we can't say that  they need to do research on mathematics, physics, chemistry, etc
But as you said we have internet, and with this powerful tool I think that many people has found a strong foundation for our beliefs.
I think that at least I know mathematics, physics and chemistry, I'm studying chemical engineering, and I'm Christian, I have Christian friends and teachers in college, so I don't think that this is caused by lack of scientific knowledge.
I appreciate you took the time to write your opinion. :)
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DRexySeamfire Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Family and religious values can only go so far whereas through science we may be able to survive just a little longer on this rock without destroying ourselves by what we do - things like the green house effect, pollution and conflicts(which can lead to big bombs, fission and fusion). I'm trying to say lets work together and start acting like a unified species that can survive long enough to evolve and live amongst the stars. Only through science can we have such ambition.

I think you slightly missed the point of what I wrote. I don't care what an individual believes in, even if they are a christian scientist, as they still investigate things in a scientific way which means following a simple set of rules: test ideas by experiment and observation, build on those ideas that pass the test and reject the ones that fail, follow the evidence where ever it leads, and question everything. That is what has lead generations of discoverers before us but religion and popular beliefs of them days were a barrier to scientists so depending on when and where you could of been killed for questioning religion and authority. That is why there is so much heated debates and hate between some individuals in these groups. And its wrong because it only causes people hurt in the Internet Age. When you say 'many of actual science pioneers were devoted Christians' you're maybe just over-exadurating, I mean you can have your opinion but how many pioneers do you know of to make such a bold claim. This is what people do to defend their reality, play pretend so that the world fits around them but in fact there are millions who all have a slightly different versions of reality, we live in bubbles, but some live in such tiny ones and just don't want to step out because it breaks their beliefs and that means change. People fear the unknown thats why our technological changes have been happening at a retarded pace.

Academics can begin to get so out of touch with reality that they laugh at the face of religion and anyone who believes and talks about it which doesn't help because its not the people's fault who don't have a great education that they believe in stories and mysterious Gods. We as the people have to not fight but help those who are very religious to become more open minded about the world. The faster we can apply our accumulated knowledge without restriction from different groups of people and the less borders we have, the more likely we are to survive. And then without conflicts and more freedom we have all the time to be creative, make babies and what ever you want to add to that.

You're somewhere in between because you have an interest in knowing and you do question, but unlike any other religion where you get kicked out for straying, Christians have the freedom to explore a little bit but they cannot question God. What if you did, what if you test your religious ideas and ask the right questions. I guess in a way I'm becoming a keyboard warrior on this topic and I don't mean to because its not helping.
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FishingPepBand Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't want to look like a jerk but the fact is, it is a lot of people's fault that they're uneducated. Sure there are some in 3rd world countries and such that can't get access to quality education and are also religious, but the number of people in the United States alone who disbelieve in science, not because of a lack of education, but solely because of a belief is insulting. I wear the name of prospective scientist proudly and hate the idea that others willingly choose to be ignorant! And I'm not the only one that thinks this! We need to band together and help these people! We need to teach them!

But not in science. We've already tried that and it doesn't work.

I forgot to mention something by the way. I'm a Christian. I was raised in a religious family but given the option to choose to agree or disagree. And I agree. And have agreed and continue to agree because of the untaught fact that religion and science can work together harmoniously. Not separated into each of their individual categories, but combined in such away that each provides a greater understanding to the other. Did you here that? SCIENCE AND RELIGION CAN WORK TOGETHER! So often people smack down people of faith as ignorant or foolish or naive! They pity them, sometimes with validity. So often people smack down science as wrong and anti-religious. They shout at them and accuse them and curse them. In so many churches and so many schools around the world it's become an idea of us against them. I don't want that. Many Christians don't want that. In fact, Christians should not want that! Please! Tell me why you disagree. Give me your opinions and ideas and arguments! There are Christian's that want to hear you! Not to fight or refute you, but to discuss!

And I don't expect you to believe. I'm not interested in trying to make you believe. I'm interested in helping to develop a mutual understanding between people. I would like to address specific potential conflicts that people can have between science and religion but this is already really long. So please if you have questions or arguments or just want to yell at me, send me a message. I want to hear your thoughts and I want to help. Again, not to make you a Christian, but to stop this ^ hate occurring on both sides that is so common in the world. Thanks for taking your time to read this. Let me know what your thoughts are.
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DRexySeamfire Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Wow, only just read this. Thanks for your reply. Religion in corrupt from its original meaning, wrapped up in children's stories. It was meant to be the appreciation of the unknown, the sun that was the central to life, the stars in the sky that lead to limitless imagination of whats out there. BUT no some people get into a religions book and take someone else's imagined stories and rules. Thats why people don't feel the need to explore and educate themselves because they take on some bullshit story, whether its through family or their situation in life that they feel the need to take the religious path. I've grown up in the internet age, where information about the sun, the stars, planets, life is easily accessible, its is not hard to do that you just need some interest and we gotta hope to inspire people to explore and learn about the world. As a species we have reached a stage where our anthropogenic activities have a big effect on the environment and other life on Earth. As individuals we can dump our waste into the atmosphere and the environment without realising it all adds up, sometimes in a negative way. Gotta recycle, reuse, clean up after ourselves, with the help of technology, become real masters of the world, not just pretend or leaving it to a made up God figure. You have to be educated and see past the primitive brain and sexual selection tricks. Science isn't something you can disbelieve. Right now we gotta rebuild our system, once we get rid of poverty and create a sustainable world we can do what the hell we want, we just live, love and make more babies knowing that the future is secure for them...
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FishingPepBand Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Do you genuinely believe that it's possible to reach a point where paradise is possible through the sheer power of human will?
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DRexySeamfire Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
When did I say that, where are you getting paradise and human will from?
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pilliwick Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
Just taged in to watch the comments,   I don't believe in religion,  but i don't believe in trolling it either
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paintbythepeople Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This would look awesome as part of the world's largest digital art collage at Kickstarter: www.kickstarter.com/projects/1…
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DanielleComics Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
How beautiful. (:
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Blugi Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! :D
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sarehptar Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Even though I am an atheist myself, I came here to look at this because I liked the background colors, and I then I saw the comments...

I feel really bad that people think it's perfectly fine to be rude and discriminatory about this kind of thing. It's like they forget that art is supposed to be about freedom of expression, whatever feelings or beliefs you want to express... For a community that tries to act so inclusive and tolerant, DeviantArt users are sure showing hypocrisy here.

I think the typography here is nice and the blend of blues and green is lovely. Don't listen to the jerks who clicked on this just to complain! :)
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Blugi Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really appreciate your comment! I'm glad that there are people who even though are not Christian or religious there are reasonable people :D
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DanielleComics Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
Thanks for this statement! As a Christian I also believe that respecting other people and their beliefs is the key to peace. (: Plus there is great beauty when we can let go of our defensiveness and enjoy art for what it is - an expression. 
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sarehptar Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Exactly. Even though I'm not religious, seeing people trash others' beliefs is awful. Of course it's one thing if someone is harassing you; it's another thing entirely if they are just trying to post the art they enjoy creating and put their efforts and feelings into. If someone posted pro-LGBT typography, and someone commented "Don't shove your beliefs down our throats!!" or things like that, people would freak out and claim those commenters were bigots and intolerant, but I guess it's all a-okay to say that kind of stuff when the artwork is about a mainstream religion. Because, you know, tolerance should only apply to me, not to everyone. *eye roll*

I totally agree that art is all about people's expressions, and people's expressions come in thousands of forms, from thousands of different viewpoints. If we try to rule out and reject everything that doesn't match our exact personal beliefs, we wouldn't have a site like DevArt or any art communities at all, because art can't exist without freedom--for everyone, not just for certain groups.
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DanielleComics Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
Exactly! "Speak the truth in love". We don't have to agree, we just have to be nice about it. :)
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IgnebrisFox Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, please. Just because someone's art that involves a Bible verse you're deciding to be offended by makes it to the front page does not make this person a "church-obsessed freak." Be courteous. And don't even start with that "religion-neutral" business. dA is an art website, not the government. Good grief.
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Woohoper Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Why are you so bothered by every religion contrary opinion on this deviation ? 
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IgnebrisFox Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not bothered by it being some differing opinion, if that's what you're implying. I'm bothered by the idiotic assumptions and accusations that someone's beliefs were being shoved down people's throats just because they saw this image on the front page for one whole day.
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Treasures-Of-Wisdom Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
If you weren't looking for it, may I ask how you came across this?  I am simply curious.
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Woohoper Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It was and maybe still is on the front page of deviantart :( 
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Treasures-Of-Wisdom Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hmm.  Popularity, newness, or something else?
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Woohoper Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Honestly I don't remember what I searched I only remember I clicked deviantart's name near the search ...anyway  I'm going to delete the comment , I don't want to bother people just because yesterday was a bad day so I went mad Ó-Ò"
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Treasures-Of-Wisdom Featured By Owner Edited Oct 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry to hear yesterday was bad for you!  I hope and pray things get better for you soon.  Anything else I can do to help?
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Woohoper Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
No thank you :) 
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PigeonMan6 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
Simplistic, ego-stroking nonsense. I have no idea what you mean by "complete", and I'm certain you don't either.
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IgnebrisFox Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Of course you don't know what this artist means by 'complete' because, as you've already shown us with your very first comment in this message, you are more willing to jump to conclusions about someone's beliefs than actually listen to what they might be about from a different perspective. And I've seen some of your fights around dA. You don't listen to a word of the opposing side, kind of like a certain Fiskefyren I know... Coincidence? Maybe. Either way, have fun hating Christianity. Let me know when it gets you somewhere :)
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PigeonMan6 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
Congratulations on your paragraph of pure condescension and zero substance. You've shown me alright.
If you care to actually make a point beyond being a douche, perhaps you could enlighten me as to what this state of being complete is, and why it necessitates submission to a mythical master.
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IgnebrisFox Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Congratulations on your paragraph of pure condescension and zero substance. You've shown me alright."

Congratulations on missing the point.

"If you care to actually make a point beyond being a douche, perhapsyou could enlighten me as to what this state of being complete is, and why it necessitates submission to a mythical master."

First, you'll have to show me you would actually listen to someone explaining that to you, because all I've seen so far from you is anger and hate at absolutely nothing. I called you out for your attack on not only this artist's work, but also the artist's beliefs and you've resorted to insults already. Exactly why I compared you to Fiskefyren, and that's not something you want hanging over your head. Either have a civil conversation or don't ask people to explain things to you.
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PigeonMan6 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
It IS simplistic, ego-stroking nonsense. It's vague and supremacist, in that it means nothing and it reduces all nonchristians to a state of being incomplete and therefore inferior. If I am wrong, tell me why.

As though you're a shining example of impartial open-mindedness? This "artwork" accused me of being incomplete for not being a christian, and so I was justifiably rude in my reaction. I am under no obligation to be peaceful and diplomatic. If you say to someone "Fuck you", you cannot be offended when they reply "Fuck you too."

Secondly, I'm sadly familiar with this "Fiskefyren" fellow, although you aren't going to shame me into altering my behavior by your comparisons. Think of me as similar if you want, but he is by far the most infuriating, aggressive, closed-minded, and stupid atheist I've ever encountered, he's worse than most religious users. Unlike him, I will listen, consider, and argue honestly. But like him, I will not offer unconditional respect, and I will not be polite in the face of illogical/unethical beliefs.
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IgnebrisFox Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"It IS simplistic, ego-stroking nonsense. It's vague and supremacist, in that it means nothing and it reduces all nonchristians to a state of being incomplete and therefore inferior. If I am wrong, tell me why."

Then listen.

Since you're the one with the burden of proof here, I'd like to hear how Christianity is so "simplistic." As for it being ego-stroking nonsense, I fail to see how Christians are "stoking their egos" when more than half the world hates us for such a belief. If we wanted to stroke our egos, don't you think we'd all quickly renounce what the world hates?

"As though you're a shining example of impartial open-mindedness?"

Yes, and where did I say that? No where :)

"This "artwork" accused me of being incomplete for not being a christian"

No, absolutely no where did it do any such thing. That's like if I saw a piece of art that said "You are complete in Buddha" and started accusing it of saying I'm not complete unless I start worshiping Buddha. Is that true for me? No. Will I believe it? No. People are allowed freedom of religion and a freedom of opinion. This user was using those freedoms to express their beliefs. If these beliefs are not yours, then they are accusing you of nothing because you do not believe them.

On top of that, you do realize other users have posted similar verses on dA, right? But just  because it's on the front page, that means it's all of a sudden accusing you of something? Where's the logic in that?

"and so I was justifiably rude in my reaction."

No, you were not "justifiably rude." You attacked someone you don't even know about beliefs you don't even hold true. At no time is that justifiable. Learn to express your concern in a civil manner. Not everything has to be solved with insults and anger.

"I am under no obligation to be peaceful and diplomatic."

Certainly not. I guess it's your choice, then, to look like an ass for no reason, because that is exactly what you seem to be saying you enjoy doing.

"If you say to someone "Fuck you", you cannot be offended when they reply "Fuck you too.""

Can you please show me where someone said the equivalent to "fuck you" on here? Because all I've seen thus far is you making your own choice to hop on this work and insult both it and the user who posted it. The only person who has really said "fuck you" is you, and for really no reason at all.

"Secondly, I'm sadly familiar with this "Fiskefyren" fellow, although you aren't going to shame me into altering my behavior by your comparisons."

I wasn't attempting to shame you, merely letting you know that you're acting like him when you insult people simply because they have a different belief than you. I guess if you don't want to look like him, you should try speaking civilly about a concern you have instead of jumping down people's throats.

"But like him, I will not offer unconditional respect, and I will not be polite in the face of illogical/unethical beliefs."

Life is a lot easier when one can politely disagree and live in content accepting that. But if you'd rather rant and rave about something that really doesn't even concern you, be my guest. Just know it's immature and will get you no where in discussion.
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PigeonMan6 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
I didn't say that christianity is simplistic. (even though it is.) I said that this image is simplistic.

Oh please, christians are 31% of the global religious population, the largest religious group in the world. 87% of christians live in a country where they are the majority and dominant ideology. What you're facing isn't persecution, it's dissent, inquiry, and criticism. Something all people must face. Christianity has grown accustomed to being the dominant party, to living in a society wherein no one may question them, fearing anything from social exile to execution. Now that christianity is losing political power, falling out of cultural influence, and has lost nearly all capacity to silence opposition, christians must actually defend their beliefs. They must deal with critics, opponents, and even mockery. And they can't, so they panic and cry persecution.

Actually yes, such an image would be accusing you of being incomplete for not following their religion. And you would have every right to be irritated by it, whether or not you happened to be. And you're right, he does have every right to express his beliefs, I wouldn't dare deny him that. But I equally have the right to express myself, regardless of how distasteful you find it what I have to say.

And I know there are plenty, this is the one I happened to see. I don't feel as though it personally targeted me, if that's what you're implying.

I wholly reject your self-declared position as some sort of moral authority, and I'll say as I please, thank you very much. There is no reason to think that you know any better than I do how best to communicate with others or handle nonsense propositions. It is entirely justified to ridicule that which is ridiculous. You only think it's some kind of ethical failure because you're looking from within that which is ridiculous believing it to be reason.

I may look like an ass to people like you, but you all look like asses to educated people. At least scientists don't giggle when I express my views. You really don't seem to understand social relativity. You continue to behave as though your logical/ethical frameworks are objective, demanding that I adhere to them and to your approved means of communication, and wondering why people seem to think christians are entitled and egocentric.

I already explained why this image is an insult to non-christians. You simply refuse to acknowledge that, and act as though I'm being absurd. Granted it's not a tremendous, or even intentional insult. But it's an insult none the less.

You know, christians aren't "everyone else". A rejection of religions does not equate to a rejection of all dissent.

It may be easier, but I felt neither the need nor desire nor ethical obligation to be polite. And it doesn't concern me? Christians are the largest and most dominant religious population in the world. Not only are most people in government christian, but most people who vote are christian. A massive, powerful chunk of humanity is basing their beliefs, decisions, votes, and legislation on ancient scriptures conceived at the peak of human ignorance. Of course christianity concerns me, it concerns everyone.
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IgnebrisFox Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"I didn't say that christianity is simplistic. (even though it is.) I said that this image is simplistic."

"Simplistic, ego-stroking nonsense."

This is what you said in your first comment. Whether or not you were speaking of the image of Christianity (whatever you mean by that) or Christianity itself has no bearing on you still having the burden of proof. Now provide proof for your claim or don't make claims you can't keep.

"Oh please, christians are 31% of the global religious population, the largest religious group in the world. 87% of christians live in a country where they are the majority and dominant ideology."

First, I'd like some sources for those statistical claims. Second, if these claims are true, that still does not mean Christians are Christians because they want to have their "ego stroked." Christians are the largest persecuted group in the world says this site: ausprayernet.org.au/feature/fe… and this article: www.iirf.eu/fileadmin/user_upl… and if you haven't been living under a rock for the past few months, you know very well about ISIS and the persecution that is happening to Christians as we speak. If we wanted our egos stroked, we'd relinquish our beliefs because we live in a world that hates us. You are proof of that claim.

"What you're facing isn't persecution, it's dissent, inquiry, and criticism"

Yes, please tell that to the women and children who are currently being raped and murdered and the men with guns shoved in their faces because of their belief in Christ. "Dissent, inquiry, and criticism..." Good grief.

"Christianity has grown accustomed to being the dominant party, to living in a society wherein no one may question them, fearing anything from social exile to execution. Now that christianity is losing political power, falling out of cultural influence, and has lost nearly all capacity to silence opposition, christians must actually defend their beliefs. They must deal with critics, opponents, and even mockery. And they can't, so they panic and cry persecution."

Bull, they do. Yes, there are some Christians like that who are used to the easy life, and when someone opposes their old, archaic views of what they grew up with "back in the day" they play the persecution card, but the reality is that we do face persecution. Certainly not all of us, no, of course not, but even so, you simply cannot lay this huge of a generalization on Christians without facing the truth--that many hate us for who we are simply because of our beliefs. I for one am perfectly fine with defending myself against those that hate me for what I believe, and I agree, Christians should be more willing to defend their beliefs instead of running away or hiding. But this in no way justifies you for making rude assumptions and jumping so quickly to conclusions against us simply because of your own biases.

"Actually yes, such an image would be accusing you of being incomplete for not following their religion."

Only if I acknowledged it and was upset about it, it would be. And even if the owner of that image was forcing his beliefs on me, I am, in no way, obliged to believe what he believes. The same is true of you and Christianity. Just because someone quoted a Bible verse and it made it to the front page does not automatically mean the owner of the image is accusing you of being incomplete without Christ. You have your beliefs, he has his, and if you're offended by his beliefs--which you don't even hold to be true--then I guess the fault is on you and no one else.

"And you would have every right to be irritated by it, whether or not you happened to be."

Sure, I'm allowed to be irritated by it. But I better have a damn good reason, or else I'm just acting like a child running to her mother every time something hurts my feelings.

"But I equally have the right to express myself, regardless of how distasteful you find it what I have to say."

Certainly you do, and I am equally allowed to challenge the erroneous claims you made.

"I don't feel as though it personally targeted me, if that's what you're implying."

Then why bring up that this image has accused you of being incomplete without Christ? If you do not feel targeted, then speaking on it accusing you of anything holds no merit on the discussion.

"There is no reason to think that you know any better than I do how best to communicate with others or handle nonsense propositions."

You're right, there isn't, because I have not stated that I understand better than you do how best to communicate a concern. I'm merely saying you get your point across easier and you look less like an ass if you reason politely with people who have differing beliefs.

"You only think it's some kind of ethical failure because you're looking from within that which is ridiculous believing it to be reason."

Ah, so you propose to be a mind-reader, now? Just to inform you, you being rude about someone and their beliefs has nothing to do with Christianity anymore. It has to do with being a decent human being. You can be courteous about differing opinions without it involving some morality. But, again, if you enjoy acting like an ass, by all means, go right ahead.

"I may look like an ass to people like you, but you all look like asses to educated people."

The reason you look like an ass is because you've chosen to act like one, and I'm certain one does not have to be a Christian to think someone ripping up people, their artwork, and their beliefs is an ass. Also, "educated people"? Give me a break. Christian scientists exist. Christian physicists exist. I guarantee there are Christians smarter than some atheist scientists. Just go look up Ravi Zacharias. Don't claim Christians are uneducated just because we believe in a religion you have already dismissed as irrational and illogical.

"At least scientists don't giggle when I express my views"

What...exactly does this have to do with anything? No one was laughing at you. And, again, there are Christian scientists. As I have already said, I enjoy science myself. I've studied physics and chemistry and even quantum mechanics. Just because I believe in a God does not automatically mean I cannot understand those kinds of fields. The same goes for any Christian scientist.

"You continue to behave as though your logical/ethical frameworks are objective, demanding that I adhere to them and to your approved means of communication, and wondering why people seem to think christians are entitled and egocentric."

I haven't demanded anything of you. If that's the way you interpret what I've said, that's all on you, but I was not forcing you to behave in a certain way. It simply seems illogical to be upset about something when you're choosing to already dismiss it with your rude biases. If Christianity is so nonsensical and simplistic, why should it even matter that this sort of art is on the front page? Why should it matter if it really was accusing you of not being complete without Christ?

"I already explained why this image is an insult to non-christians. You simply refuse to acknowledge that"

Yes, I have acknowledged that your reason for thinking this is insulting to non-Christians is because you think it accuses you of not being a whole person without Christ. But I simply cannot understand how it is insulting when, 1. you do not believe these beliefs, 2. it was not the intention of the artist to make it insulting, and 3. it is a quote from the Bible. You'd have reason to feel insulted if Christianity was somehow being forced on you. You'd have reason to feel insulted if the artist was actually commenting and saying all atheists are incomplete without Christ and are going to hell and what not. You'd have reason to feel insulted if this was a quote the artist had come up with instead of a quote from a book Christians follow. You're allowed to feel insulted by this verse, but again, that's really no one's fault but your own since you're choosing to feel insulted by something that has no merit on you as a person and has simply not made any move to put non-believers down. So, in short, feel upset. Get angry. Fine. But know it is not a belief's fault you have chosen to lash out.

"It may be easier, but I felt neither the need nor desire nor ethical obligation to be polite. And it doesn't concern me? Christians are the largest and most dominant religious population in the world."

Oh, okay. So what you're saying is, when something is the most popular something or another, that gives the minority reason to be rude asses that are allowed to make whatever erroneous claims they wish just because they're the minority? This mentality needs to die. Fast. I'm sick of people putting the minority on a pedestal simply because they aren't society's most wanted at the moment or because they were oppressed or what have you. Please. This isn't high school. You may be a minority in the religious category, but that does not give you a right to be mean and bias. The minority needs to have objective evidence for claims just as much as the majority does.

"Not only are most people in government christian, but most people who vote are christian. A massive, powerful chunk of humanity is basing their beliefs, decisions, votes, and legislation on ancient scriptures conceived at the peak of human ignorance. Of course christianity concerns me, it concerns everyone."

Well, before you get too concerned, I'd actually find sources that proclaim this to be true, because I highly doubt it is. And if it's not, then there's nothing to be concerned about. Problem solved, right?
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x-o-the-revolution Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Tell it, girl. Amen
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dannyesosa Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Student General Artist
amen!
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RRproAni Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Student General Artist
Very good work. I really don't see how others are calling this crap. I guess they're not looking beyond the words and meaning. The background is great and the color usage is amazing! We need some great words on the front page once in a while, so thank you. God bless! :)
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